Alasdan Helminthauge wrote:Rexxar Santaro wrote:You know in some level III missions and in almost all level IV missions youGÇÖll land into DED space surrounded by a horde of S, M and L ships. They will apply on your ship one or more Webifiers which will web your vessel in a place (forget about kitting or so) and you just have to kill everything around, and disruptor jammer frigates in the first row.
Fit an MJD and you can forget to fit tanking modules.
Entro just looking for any good PVE ships to climb up through missions to lvl IV, based on his low combat skills and limited budget. Before level IV missions everyone must complete a huge amount of level III missions even with Connection III skills trained.
The MJD tools are available for special T2 BC (Command Ships and Combat Battlecruisers GÇô over 70 days of skill training) and BS. We just should tank on BCs. Well, I did over 150 of lvl III missions on passive tanked Hurricane which was not so fun; just noticed that a booster is much better option on lack of DPS. With high DPS, currently, the passive tank BC looks better.
The distance MJD tanking BS exists as other tanking mechanics exists. As for me, itGÇÖs a limited GÇ£fan fitGÇ¥ mode to perform missions. ItGÇÖs limited because requires nice ship skills and special ships. If IGÇÖm not wrong the MJD tanking is used by Cruise Missile Battleships like Raven and Rattlesnake mainly. I looked at this previously and I was unable to use this tanking mode on a turret armed BS.
The issues of MJD tanking. The Large MJD consumes 1375 MW which is like MWD power usage. The distant tanking is designed to dps rats from distance above 80km. You need to use, for example, like 7-8 3.3GW power grid Beam lasers or 2.7GW Scout Artillery which is roughly 21 GÇô 25 GW (Sure, with special skills we can downgrade this!), considering the best default power grid for BS is 21GW. Even in this case youGÇÖll need some resistance and little tanking, because Guristas, Angel, Mordus will reach your ship with missiles. Some missions have advanced BS with long range weapons. Anyway, I had problems to fit such a balanced BS. Secondly, the turret/beam dps isnGÇÖt absolute and it decreases with falloff at max/min range. Practically, with low skills and avg 400dps you need to be in optimal range with drones on target to overcome some rats BS tanking mode. To fit a MJD on Machariel IDK. Opposite to this the Raven with default 11GW can easily handle 6 Cruise Missile Launchers 1.4GW = 8.4GW. No need to sacrifice dps and tanking modules on power upgrades and with good explosion signature and painter isnGÇÖt a similar falloff effect from above 90km. The railguns also allow to build some experimental BS distant tanks.
EDIT: My current Maelstrom with 25.2GW let me use MJD, but I learned many weapon and engineering skills already. Also, I don't have good dps to destroy enemy BS from above 70km. My targeting radius is 82km :).
If you know a good MJD tanking amarrian BS let me know.